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Originally Posted by
JustAnotherBearsFan99
Unfortunately it is a 4 quarter game. Cutler has been remarkable in the last quarter. I am not trashing Cutler at all. I am trying to be honest here.
So Jay IS the problem the first 3 quaters? Not the gameplan, or anything else? So what happen the first 3 quarters of the SF game? The O looked the same right? NOT the D seen this and knew.
The passion of a few, to rule the many, that's Washington D.C.. Where else was that said before, about whom?
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I believe there is some truth in what he says, but I also think it's sprinkled with a liberal dose of bull shit.
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I think we should extend Cutler's contract now. He's the best QB we have had since most of us has been alive. I know the talk has been wait till the off season but I say lock him up now!
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Originally Posted by
yttocs
So Jay IS the problem the first 3 quaters? Not the gameplan, or anything else? So what happen the first 3 quarters of the SF game? The O looked the same right? NOT the D seen this and knew.
This is not to say that Jay hasn't thrown some bad passes (he has, all gunslinger QBs do), but the problems on O are 95% due to two factors:
A) The OL remains terrible. At least terribly inconsistent.
B) All the elements (play calling, game planning, personnel management) of offensive coaching have SUCKED HARD.
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Originally Posted by
yttocs
OK, lets be honest. Has the D been lights out GREAT, yes, till the SF game. But Has Jay made the O better, YES, but the O looked the worst all season in SF. Whats common here, no Jay. Wonder if the O turned the ball over on every other down how the D would be? The Bears for the season have a better TOP. Jay is/ has better stats, in the fourth quater, when the D would be most tired. That doesn't help?
In the two losses WITH Cutler we only managed 16 points; that's 1 TD and 3 FGs for those who can't do the math...The fact is when we need him the most, Jay is nowhere to be found...harsh and maybe a bit unfair, but it's slowly becoming a very real perception for many...
Last edited by Wolfman; 11-21-2012 at 11:23 AM.
Reductio ad absurdum...it's how we roll...
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First off your comment is childish. Secondly, no full time starting QB is going to win every game he plays in. Third Cutler has only played in one full game we lost this season. In the Houston game he was out at half time and no one knows had he played in the second if we would have won. The only real perception about your statement is how dumb it makes you look.
If you really want to blame someone for our 3 loses try Mik Tice and his inapt Offensive Line.

Originally Posted by
Wolfman
In the two losses WITH Cutler we only managed 16 points; that's 1 TD and 3 FGs for those who can't do the math...The fact is when we need him the most, Jay is nowhere to be found...harsh and maybe a bit unfair, but it's slowly becoming a very real perception for many...
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Originally Posted by
JJ-30
First off your comment is childish. Secondly, no full time starting QB is going to win every game he plays in. Third Cutler has only played in one full game we lost this season. In the Houston game he was out at half time and no one knows had he played in the second if we would have won. The only real perception about your statement is how dumb it makes you look.
If you really want to blame someone for our 3 loses try Mik Tice and his inapt Offensive Line.
Still reading things I am not writing, I see...do you REALLY think I believe and expect Cutler to win EVERY SINGLE GAME???? You must, since you said it...that my friend, makes you a fucking idiot...
Lots of blame to go around for what's happening this year...my childish disappointment with Cutler, does not any way lessen the blame elsewhere...Tice needs to do better, the OL needs to do better and yes, Jay Cutler needs to do better...and better for an elite caliber QB means actually winning a few games on his ability alone...elite means winning BIG games...who cares about throwing meaningless TDs in the 4th quarter of games already long won by our defense...
Please note: Nowhere in this thread or others have I said I want to get rid of Cutler...I figured I'd throw that out there before your next asinine correction of what I am not saying...
Reductio ad absurdum...it's how we roll...
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Still reading things I am not writing, I see...did I say you expect Cutler to win EVERY SINGLE GAME???? You must, since you said it...that my friend, makes you a fucking idiot...
Why didn't you answer the rest of my comment. Oh yea never mind I already know because I was right. I am not calling you out I am just stating think before you write. As for your second paragraph in this posting your right there is lot of blame go around.
Two things I learn from play pro ball. No one player can win or lose a game and football is a team sport.

Originally Posted by
Wolfman
Still reading things I am not writing, I see...do you REALLY think I believe and expect Cutler to win EVERY SINGLE GAME???? You must, since you said it...that my friend, makes you a fucking idiot...
Lots of blame to go around for what's happening this year...my childish disappointment with Cutler, does not any way lessen the blame elsewhere...Tice needs to do better, the OL needs to do better and yes, Jay Cutler needs to do better...and better for an elite caliber QB means actually winning a few games on his ability alone...elite means winning BIG games...who cares about throwing meaningless TDs in the 4th quarter of games already long won by our defense...
Please note: Nowhere in this thread or others have I said I want to get rid of Cutler...I figured I'd throw that out there before your next asinine correction of what I am not saying...
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Originally Posted by
JJ-30
Why didn't you answer the rest of my comment. Oh yea never mind I already know because I was right. I am not calling you out I am just stating think before you write. As for your second paragraph in this posting your right there is lot of blame go around.
Sure, of course, Cutler only played the 1st half of the Houston game...that doesn't invalidate my point...who knows what would have happened if Cutler had played the 2nd half...however, we'll never know, because once again, he wasn't around when we needed him...in that case, it was physically around...in the GB game, it was mentally...
Two things I learn from play pro ball. No one player can win or lose a game and football is a team sport.
Yeah, whatever...team sport and all that...however, not all players and positions are the same...a RT can't generally win game for ya, a QB can...and an elite QB is expected, at times, to do just that...
Reductio ad absurdum...it's how we roll...
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Originally Posted by
Wolfman
Still reading things I am not writing, I see...do you REALLY think I believe and expect Cutler to win EVERY SINGLE GAME???? You must, since you said it...that my friend, makes you a fucking idiot...
Lots of blame to go around for what's happening this year...my childish disappointment with Cutler, does not any way lessen the blame elsewhere...Tice needs to do better, the OL needs to do better and yes, Jay Cutler needs to do better...and better for an elite caliber QB means actually winning a few games on his ability alone...elite means winning BIG games...who cares about throwing meaningless TDs in the 4th quarter of games already long won by our defense...
Please note: Nowhere in this thread or others have I said I want to get rid of Cutler...I figured I'd throw that out there before your next asinine correction of what I am not saying...
Shouldn't you be in The Bar Scene right now, Wolfman?